Support climate entities in area temperature configuration

[jakoss]

The problem

I want to set my temperature sensor for area. I go to the areas, select one and see that i have no compatible entities:

But i do have a netatmo thermostat in that area:

Is that a bug or maybe that expected and i need to create a derivative to support that?

What version of Home Assistant Core has the issue?

core-2025.4.0

What type of installation are you running?

Home Assistant OS

I created a bug ticket for that in core repository, but they redirected me here: home-assistant/core#142177

[jokerigno]

That is a climate entity not a sensor entity. You can create a template sensor out of the climate attributes to achieve this.

[jakoss]

I know I can, and I do it right now. It just seems to me like it would be better user experience if it was handled automatically

[jokerigno]

I understand your point. Even if n my experience temperature sensor within vales or air conditioner are not reliable I agree with you that adding climate domain could be a good alternative.

[jakoss]

Yes, I think If we are talking about less technical user - he doesn't care that his climate sensor is not that reliable. And right now he just cannot use it in the new automatic dashboards which, I think, are targeting those people. I can create a derivative and I also set all my dashboards myself. People who will rely on automatic ones probably won't be able to understand what the derivative sensor is and why it's required in here

[piitaya]

In general, it's a good practices for integration to provide two entities : one climate for control et one temperature sensor for history.
Indeed, the climate entity only keep history for few days while the sensor keep history forever as they are stored as long term statistic.

The Netatmo integration should be updated to provide a sensor by default. Matter and HomeKit provide an additional temperature sensor that purpose.

[pissten]

It should absolutely be introdused support for climate entities, as we then could/should see actual AND target temperatures on the area card. that would be great.. just like we've had on Dwains Dashboard all along.
I think templates are great, but it should not be the rule, rather the exception.